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NYC marathon results

Post by MeeM » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:07 pm

First of all, Hats off to Shalane Flanagan !!! Great Job, I thought she pushed it a little at mile 22 with a 4:58 mile but the last two miles Edna sealed the deal.  Exciting race to watch.

I wanted to see Haile place well but there was doubt with his achy knee.  Dathan and Meb were doing really well and the pace was within reach for both of them but at mile 18 the pace was pushed to around a 4:30 pace and they fell back. 

Looking at Dathan and Meb they have some great 10k,5k, and 1/2 marathon times and equal some of the African runners.  The surging in London broke down Hall and its just my opinion but it seems that surging around mile 15 is a tactic with great success. Hall admitted that he was more accustomed to a steady pace and had struggled to keep pace.

Is there anything to the training of Kenyans, Ethopians that allows them to surge within the middle and still maintain form through out the later end of the race.  Sammy Wanjiru practices 5k easy 5k hard into his longer runs and dominated Beijing and Chicago '10.

                        Top Female Finishers

Place Bib Name Time State Country Citizenship
1 117 Edna Kiplagat 02:28:20 Kenya KEN
2 108 Shalane Flanagan 02:28:40 OR United States USA
3 104 Mary Keitany 02:29:01 Kenya KEN
4 110 Inga Abitova 02:29:17 Russia RUS
5 111 Kim Smith 02:29:28 RI United States NZL
6 103 Christelle Daunay 02:29:29 France FRA
7 102 Ludmila Petrova 02:29:41 Russia RUS
8 120 Caroline Rotich 02:29:46 Kenya KEN
9 114 Madai Perez 02:29:53 Mexico MEX
10 118 Buzunesh Deba 02:29:55 NY United States ETH
11 121 Katie McGregor 02:31:01 MN United States USA

Top Male Finishers

Place Bib Name Time State Country Citizenship
1 14 Gebre Gebrmariam 02:08:14 Ethiopia ETH
2 6 Emmanuel Mutai 02:09:18 Kenya KEN
3 21 Moses Kigen Kipkosgei 02:10:39 Kenya KEN
4 8 Abderrahim Goumri 02:10:51 Morocco MAR
5 3 James Kwambai 02:11:31 Kenya KEN
6 1 Meb Keflezighi 02:11:38 CA United States USA
7 10 Marilson Gomes dos Santos 02:11:51 Brazil BRA
8 12 Dathan Ritzenhein 02:12:33 OR United States USA
9 4 Abel Kirui 02:13:01 Kenya KEN
10 5 Abderrahime Bouramdane 02:14:07 Morocco MAR
11 7 Jorge Torres 02:14:57 CO United States USA
12 16 Peter Kamais 02:14:58 Kenya KEN
13 18 Tim Nelson 02:15:06 OR United States USA


Just some food for thought.
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Re: NYC marathon results

Post by ap4305 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:06 pm

[quote="MeeM"]
I wanted to see Haile place well but there was doubt with his achy knee.  Dathan and Meb were doing really well and the pace was within reach for both of them but at mile 18 the pace was pushed to around a 4:30 pace and they fell back. 

Looking at Dathan and Meb they have some great 10k,5k, and 1/2 marathon times and equal some of the African runners.  The surging in London broke down Hall and its just my opinion but it seems that surging around mile 15 is a tactic with great success. Hall admitted that he was more accustomed to a steady pace and had struggled to keep pace.

Is there anything to the training of Kenyans, Ethopians that allows them to surge within the middle and still maintain form through out the later end of the race.  Sammy Wanjiru practices 5k easy 5k hard into his longer runs and dominated Beijing and Chicago '10.

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That's an interesting question.  I'm inclined to say that fitness, not tactics, played a far greater role in comparing the winner to Meb and Ritz.  Just because they were in touch with the lead pack doesn't mean everyone was working equally hard at that point.  However, I'd agree that the surge might have made the difference for Hall at London, since he was supremely marathon fit at that point but (in my opinion) had begun to lose touch in training with his 10k-half marathon athleticism.   

When we see a guy make a break from the pack mid-race and hang on for the win, is it the surging tactic that made the differene, or was he simply cruising along more comfortably than the others and had greater reserves to call upon to allow for a surge? 

That said, a "Wave" style run (as Tinman calls it) as practiced by Wanjiru is a solid workout for fitness, regardless of whether you surge or not in the actual race.  A similar concept is the all-out fast finish run as used by Khanoucchi that helped develop his legendary finish strength in the marathon and helped him defeat many runners head to head on the road who would have basically lapped him in a track 10k (such as Tergat and Geb).  But again, we wouldn't be talking about KK's legendary finishes if he couldn't cruise through 16 miles of a marathon with virtually effortless ease. 
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