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by Biff
Fri May 10, 2019 9:31 am
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Marathon - New to Tinman - Big workout ideas
Replies: 6
Views: 4973

Re: Marathon - New to Tinman - Big workout ideas

It is interesting that those links are from 10 years ago. Last year Brogan Austin was coached by Tinman to the US national marathon championship at CIM using very little marathon pace work. I wonder if Tinman's philosophy or workouts have changed or if he simply prescribes different types of workout...
by Biff
Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Please help a high school runner
Replies: 4
Views: 2013

Re: Please help a high school runner

Well there you have it. Dropping your mileage from 60 to 35 (almost cutting it in half!) and adding intensity will lead to peaking in a couple weeks and burnout/staleness a couple weeks after that. So that is a clear problem. Regarding "pacing appropriately": run your workouts at an even pace, errin...
by Biff
Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:28 am
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Please help a high school runner
Replies: 4
Views: 2013

Re: Please help a high school runner

Ok it is hard to tell why you peak early from what you have written, but my assumption is that your coach has you doing hard intervals a lot and the mileage is not very high once you get into the speed work. That is typical for a lot of HS teams. I will tell you my brother is in HS and has been in a...
by Biff
Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:32 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tinman, congrats on the performance of Brogan Austin!!
Replies: 1
Views: 1622

Tinman, congrats on the performance of Brogan Austin!!

Tinman, Those of us on these boards are ever thankful for the training knowledge you have graciously shared over the past 10+ years. I think it is only fitting that you are getting more and more elite athletes in your training stable. Given what I know about your philosophy, I expect we will be hear...
by Biff
Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:46 am
Forum: "Racing Talk"
Topic: Tinman, care to report on how the Tinman Elite are doing?
Replies: 1
Views: 3965

Tinman, care to report on how the Tinman Elite are doing?

Hi Tinman, I have been seeing a few posts on instagram/twitter from Drew Hunter and the guys training with him. I know it has been a while since Drew raced, but I remember how successful all your guys were in the fall with club XC. Drew's name popped up on the Stanford start lists this week. I am ex...
by Biff
Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:12 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: When is too early for LT work?
Replies: 2
Views: 2307

Re: When is too early for LT work?

Tinman advocates that you touch on CV pace year round, so it is never to early to touch on that pace range. I wouldn't start at 5-6 miles of LT though if it is new. Start with 5x1k of CVish pacing, maybe alternate weeks with LT miles or 20 minute tempo run. For you, Tinman would probably recommend 5...
by Biff
Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:46 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tinman training taking over!
Replies: 6
Views: 5669

Re: Tinman training taking over!

Wow, that's a bummer about Drew! I'm sure it is pretty exciting to see him, a miler, have such great strength that he could hang for 10k with the cross country guys. But I guess that is what you would expect with the Tinman training approach. Anyway, hope the rehabbing is going well and we get to se...
by Biff
Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:28 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tinman training taking over!
Replies: 6
Views: 5669

Tinman training taking over!

Congratulations to runthe8 and the Loudoun Valley boys cross country team on winning NXN! Congrats to the Tinman Elite team for winning US Club Cross team title! With Drew Hunter leading the way, it looks like Tinman is really starting to make a name for himself in the elite running world. Good stuff
by Biff
Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:44 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Advice needed for a slower runner, looking to improve
Replies: 9
Views: 4037

Re: Advice needed for a slower runner, looking to improve

Thanks so much for the responses! A little later when I get more time, I will reread and digest all the info and may have other questions. But did want to provide a little more... In response to a few, I actually anticipated back right before summer that my 5K time was around 26:00 or so based on h...
by Biff
Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:41 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Advice needed for a slower runner, looking to improve
Replies: 9
Views: 4037

Re: Advice needed for a slower runner, looking to improve

I have a few thoughts on your post. First, you talk about being a bigger guy and having problems with ongoing soreness and overtraining. As a fellow larger runner, I have found that long "recovery" runs over an hour tend to really sap the speed out of my legs. They took some building up to before t...
by Biff
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:31 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Advice needed for a slower runner, looking to improve
Replies: 9
Views: 4037

Re: Advice needed for a slower runner, looking to improve

I have a few thoughts on your post. First, you talk about being a bigger guy and having problems with ongoing soreness and overtraining. As a fellow larger runner, I have found that long "recovery" runs over an hour tend to really sap the speed out of my legs. They took some building up to before th...
by Biff
Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:08 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Kipchoge's training. Tinman do you have any comments?
Replies: 2
Views: 4537

Kipchoge's training. Tinman do you have any comments?

http://www.sweatelite.co/eliud-kipchoge-full-training-log-leading-marathon-world-record-attempt/ Above link with the last 6 weeks or so of Kipchoge's training. Some interesting stuff, I wonder if Tinman has any comments on things we can learn from Kipchoge's training. I personally fine Eliud Kipchog...
by Biff
Tue May 02, 2017 9:18 am
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Chronic Lower Leg Soreness Limiting Training
Replies: 2
Views: 3487

Re: Chronic Lower Leg Soreness Limiting Training

You guys have it flipped - low heel-to-toe drop shoes are harder on the calves. Your shoe inserts lifting the heels are increasing the heel-toe drop. I have had some issues with lower leg soreness as well. Things that have helped are 1) going back to a standard 8-12mm drop shoe from 0-2mm 2) running...
by Biff
Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:46 am
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Half Marathon Tapering
Replies: 10
Views: 9481

Re: Half Marathon Tapering

If that usually gets you to the line feeling fresh, I think you are right not to mess with it. And I personally think it was a good idea to reduce the number of HMP reps in your last hard workout over the weekend. The hay is in the barn, so to speak, so no need to hammer a crazy hard workout. Good l...
by Biff
Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:15 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Question on CV Video
Replies: 1
Views: 2772

Re: Question on CV Video

8k of CV work is a lot, so you must be pretty fast. In which case you can probably keep doing what you are doing. But I think that Tinman's point is that you really don't need a ton of mile pace (high intensity) work, and that stamina training is more important. So rather than trying to progress to ...